These are a few early poems which are out of print and difficult to find. I present them here simply to keep them available, on the off-chance that someone might be mildly interested.
| Title | Magazine | Issue | Page |
| immersed in waves, perceiving god | beyond baroque | 782 (July 1978) | 43 |
| definitions | beyond baroque | 782 (July 1978) | 44 |
| words of power | beyond baroque | 782 (July 1978) | 44 |
| it's surreal, sir | beyond baroque | 782 (July 1978) | 45 |
| on writing a poem | beyond baroque | 782 (July 1978) | 46 |
| stillness at dusk | In a Nutshell | Vol. 2, No. 3 (1976) | 30 |
| haiku | Hyacinths and Biscuits | #15 (1974) | 26 |